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Senator, good to have you with us tonight.

You know, I think this latest Obama ad plays right to the workers of Ohio. Mitt Romney and Bain Capital were at the forefront of outsourcing jobs to places like China. What has outsourcing done to the state of Ohio and other manufacturing states? How damaging is this?

SEN. SHERROD BROWN (D), OHIO: It`s been very damaging. We have seen
a trade deficit with China explode. Take auto parts. Ohio is a major auto parts making state. Ten years ago, the trade deficit was one billion dollars bilateral with China on auto parts. Today it`s 10 billion.

That`s why the president -- at the urging of a number of us, the president has have taken China to the World Trade Organization to show that China is cheating and to ask for some kinds of tariffs to protect American companies, manufacturers especially, and to protect American workers. And that`s -- we`re seeing a pattern of the government finally on the side of workers, finally on the side of American manufacturing, standing up for American workers against China.

We have a new steel mill in Youngstown. We`re seeing jobs actually come to this country or stay in this country because we`re standing up and enforcing trade rules.

SCHULTZ: Romney and the Republicans keep talking about another tax cut for the job creators. Don`t we just see them increasing their profits by outsourcing this way? I mean, the model that Romney wants to lay on the country, how could it be good for workers in Ohio?

BROWN: Well, it`s not. We tried these tax cuts for the rich the last 10 years, tax cuts for the rich, hoping it trickles down to the middle class. It doesn`t work.

What works are things like when you build the economy from the middle class out. The auto rescue clearly has worked in Ohio. Our unemployment rate -- we`re not where we need to be, but it`s three -- more than three percentage points lower than it was in 2010.

Enforcing trade laws -- we have more tire jobs in Fenly, more steel jobs in Cleveland and Loraine, more aluminum jobs in Heath and Sydney, Ohio, because we`re staying on trade. I want the president to take one more step and that is -- and Romney could help us with this. The governor could send a letter to John Boehner to pass my legislation in the House.

We have passed it in the Senate, to level the playing field on Chinese currency, the largest bipartisan jobs bill to pass the Senate.

We`re asking --


SCHULTZ: Well, he hasn`t. And the Romney camp keeps coming back, hitting President Obama on currency -- manipulation of currency in China. It`s passed in the Senate and Boehner won`t bring it up in the House.I want to get to this. The Obama campaign is out today with a new ad about a campaign stop Mitt Romney made in Ohio. I want to get your reaction to it. Here it is.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: See the coal miners in these ads? Turns out they were told that attendance at Mitt Romney`s rally was, quote, "mandatory." Their mine was closed, lost the pay they needed, all to be props in Romney`s commercial.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Employees feel they were forced to go. They had to take the day off without pay. They took a roll call. They had a list of who was there and who wasn`t and felt they wouldn`t have a job if they did not attend.


SCHULTZ: I mean, this is shear arrogance On one hand, the business model is to outsource the jobs. But when you have a chance to use the workers in a commercial -- senator, what do you think of this? Your thoughts on this?
BROWN: No surprise, the same stuff. But I go back, Ed, if Governor Romney would pick up the phone and call John Boehner, join our grassroots effort -- we`re putting pressure on Boehner to pass this. Twenty senators have signed a letter. My grassroots effort,, come to that, put pressure on Boehner, ask Governor Romney. We`ll help with that--to schedule this trade enforcement legislation for China. That will make a real difference in jobs, not some of the stuff Romney is talking about or my opponent is talking about.

SCHULTZ: You`re not going to get a letter from Mitt Romney. I think you have a great idea, senator, but any candidate that would use forced workers to be props in a campaign, I wouldn`t count on him for anything.

Ohio Senator Sherrod Brown with us tonight here on THE ED SHOW. Senator,
good to have you with us.

Lots more coming up in the next half hour of THE ED SHOW. Stay right


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