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MSNBC "Rachel Maddow Show" - Transcript


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REP. PATRICK MURPHY (D), PENNSYLVANIA: Rachel, thanks for having me back. I do appreciate it.

MADDOW: Let me ask you, before I talk about what happened in the House today--let me get your response as well to General Amos" comments, the commandant of the Marine Corps.

MURPHY: Well, let me tell you, Sergeant Alva was eloquent in his comments. And let me tell you something about Sergeant Alva. He"s an American hero, and he"s right that no one can take away his service and his sacrifice for our freedoms here in America. He is just as much a Marine as anyone I"ve ever met in my life.

And I"ll tell you what, Rachel, you know, the paratroopers from the 82nd Airborne Division in the Army that I served with back in Iraq in 2003 and 2004, they didn"t care who you were writing letters back home to, if you had a boyfriend or a girlfriend. They care whether you could handle your assault rifle, could you get down into work, could do your job so we"d all come home alive.

MADDOW: You have been able to get the repeal of "don"t ask, don"t tell" successfully through the House twice in one session, which would be remarkable to do it once, you have done it twice. As it heads to the Senate, do you have confidence that this could happen? In terms of timing, it"s really down to the wire now.

MURPHY: I do have confidence. And you know why, Rachel? There are Senate Republicans, folks like Senator Collins, Senator Snowe, Senator Murkowski from Alaska, and Senator Brown from your home state of Massachusetts, who have now come forward, advocating the time now to repeal "don"t ask, don"t tell."

Now, we need to get after it in the Senate. I"m confident they"re going to do it. I understand that they must be celebrating festivus or something, that they can"t do any other work, but the reality of it is this: we need to make sure we"re doing everything we can for our heroes in harm"s way. Now is not the time to be kicking them out just because they happen to be gay.

MADDOW: Congressman, you were defeated in this last election. You had 47 percent of vote in your home district. Do you think the work you did on this issue hurt you politically? Was this a political sacrifice for you?

MURPHY: You know, I don"t think so. But, you know, my dad was a cop and a Navy veteran. And, you know, he taught my brother and sister and I when we were young children, if you don"t stand for something, you"ll fall for anything.

And at the end of the day, you know, I have two little kids, Maggie Murphy and Jack Murphy at home, and they"re in college in about 20 years from now. I want them to be proud of what their daddy fought for when he had the time, the four years in Congress, to fight for our values.

MADDOW: Pennsylvania Democratic Congressman Patrick Murphy, thank you so much for joining us tonight, sir. I hope--I hope and expect we"ll be seeing you again soon.

MURPHY: Thanks, Rachel. Thanks for always having me on. I appreciate it. And you"re a great American still.

MADDOW: Thank you. You"re the only person who ever tells me that, but I laugh it up every time you do.

MURPHY: And happy festivus.


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