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Location: Washington, DC

Mr. KYL. Mr. President, I wish to pick up on the comments of my colleague, the Republican leader.

There is another distressing story in the paper today reported by the Associated Press. They report that all of the special deals that last week the President said he was going to try to remove from the legislation, now--except for the ``Cornhusker kickback''--they are going to leave them in there because they need the votes. If that is correct, this process is even sicker than we thought it was.

Part of the reason for the Democratic leadership using the reconciliation provision to fix the Senate bill was to take all of these special provisions out, but now it appears, according to the Associated Press, that they are going to be kept in there because they need the votes.

Let me detail what a couple of these are. Last week, there was a story in Politico that detailed six specific items. Of course, there was the ``Cornhusker kickback'' that got such bad publicity and everybody agreed it had to go, including the Senator who voted for the legislation after he was promised that in his State there would be no cost for the coverage of additional Medicaid patients. Now that is apparently going to be ``fixed,'' at great expense, I might add, to the taxpayers of the United States, but apparently unfixed are six other items, and there are more, by the way.


``We have defended it and we will defend it,'' said Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont, whose state picked up $600 million in extra Medicaid funding .....

Again, I am quoting from a March 10 Politico story.


In a letter to congressional leaders last week, Obama targeted the Nebraska and Florida deals for elimination. The Florida provision could also shield some seniors in California, New York, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania, according to Senator Bill Nelson's office.

This provision deals with Medicare patients. The reason it is important to me is because there are 330,000-plus Arizona seniors who have Medicare Advantage plans. These are the plans that would suffer under the legislation proposed by the President. Because they would have benefits they currently enjoy taken away from them, the seniors in all of the States are obviously complaining to their Senators. So Democrats have said: Well, OK, if seniors are upset about having these benefits taken away, then we will shield the seniors in our States who have these Medicare Advantage policies so that they don't have to give up their benefits--the biggest set of beneficiaries, and there are over 800,000 of them in the State of Florida but apparently also some in California, New York, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania. All right. Special deal for them.

If this bill, by the way, is so great, why do we have to protect our citizens from its provisions? But that is the way it works. However, my senior citizen constituents in Arizona don't get grandfathered as do those in other States. It just shows you how bad the bill policy is in the area generally that you have to protect your constituents from suffering the effects of the bill but also the bad policy that does that to the detriment of other constituencies.

Apparently, now that is going to stay in the bill.

Then there was the so-called ``Louisiana purchase,'' $300 million to Louisiana. Then there was the $1.1 billion in extra Medicaid funding to Massachusetts and Vermont. This Politico article quotes Senator Patrick Leahy of Vermont:

What I told Harry Reid is that Vermont does the right thing, and I don't want Vermont to be penalized for doing the right thing.

Of course, that is the kind of argument that is made in response to provisions in the bill that are bad provisions because they hurt the people in your State. But the solution is not to exempt your State's constituents from the bad effects of the bill. Don't pass the bill. It is a bad bill.

Here is a fifth example. There is a $100 million hospital grant program requested by our colleague from Connecticut, Senator Dodd, ``who has acknowledged that the University of Connecticut would qualify for the money.''

Here is a sixth one that is being promoted by the chairman of the Finance Committee, Senator Baucus, on behalf of the residents of Libby, MT.

There is another one not mentioned here, but I am aware of it. It protects two insurance companies--Blue Cross/Blue Shield and Mutual of Omaha in Nebraska, again at the request of the Senator from Nebraska. I believe there is another company in the State of Wisconsin protected.

My point is, first, if this bill is so wonderful, why do we have to have all these separate carve-outs, special deals, for Representatives or for constituents in the States of certain Democrats in order, presumably, in the House of Representatives, to help the Speaker of the House get her vote total up to where she can actually pass the bill? Why don't we just fix the bill in the first place so none of these bad effects are visited on the constituents whom I represent, for example, or anybody else's constituents for that matter?

At a minimum, the President should follow through on his plan last week to try to get these provisions out of the bill. It turns out now that apparently this week, according to David Axlerod, during the rotations of the Sunday morning talk shows he was on, that is no longer part of the plan.

The last thing I would like to do is comment briefly on a Washington Post column by Robert Samuelson this morning.

Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent to have printed in the Record a Washington Post column by Robert Samuelson.

The ACTING PRESIDENT pro tempore. Without objection, it is so ordered.

(See exhibit 1.)

Mr. KYL. Mr. President, I will briefly summarize it. The President is visiting in Ohio, I believe, today to highlight the case of a particular Ohio resident. I believe she is a breast cancer survivor. Her insurance eventually became too expensive for her to keep up. She now has a diagnosis of another disease, and the President is highlighting this type of case. I think it is important to highlight it for another reason.

I presume the President or the Senators or Representatives of Ohio are finding an alternative way to ensure she is cared for. Frequently, we have constituents come to us with situations such as this. They represent very heartrending situations, problems with which you want to deal. The real question is how to deal with it. The answer to her problem is not to pass this health care bill. There are alternatives.

For example, for those who cannot get insurance that is affordable to them because of preexisting conditions--Republicans have put ideas on the table, as have Democrats, but that is a specific kind of problem that can be solved with a specific solution rather than this entire health care bill the President is trying to sell to us.

What Robert Samuelson points out in his article is there are a lot of different situations such as this, where people who are not insured nevertheless get care. In fact, the argument is made that we need this kind of health care bill because there are too many people who are uninsured and get expensive and ineffective treatment at the emergency room. He says: ``Unfortunately it's not true.''

He quotes a study by the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation that finds that the insured population ``accounted for 83 percent of emergency-room visits, reflecting their share of the population.'' In other words, there is not a difference of who visits the emergency room and who does not depending on whether you are insured.

He goes on to say:

After Massachusetts adopted universal insurance, emergency-room use remained higher than the national average, an Urban Institute study found.

The point is, even after you get the so-called universal coverage, you do not find any difference in terms of emergency room visits. If anything, with universal coverage, you had even higher emergency room visits. His point is, and I quote Robert Samuelson:

If universal coverage makes appointments harder to get, emergency-room use may increase.

So you are not making the problem better; if anything, you are making it worse. My guess is, you are not affecting it much one way or the other. It is simply not an argument that because people who are uninsured go to the emergency room, therefore, we have to pass some kind of nationwide health care bill such as has been suggested to us.

He goes on to point out:

You probably think that insuring the uninsured will dramatically improve the nation's health.

He goes on to debunk that myth:

I've written before that expanding health insurance would result, at best, in modest health gains.

He goes on to point out that studies have validated the fact it does not make a difference one way or another.

Claims that the uninsured suffer tens of thousands of premature deaths are ``open to question.'' Conceivably, the ``lack of health insurance has no more impact on your health than lack of flood insurance.

He goes on to detail the reasons why that is so.

He concludes with this point:

Though it seems compelling, covering the uninsured is not the health-care system's major problem. The big problem is uncontrolled spending.

That is a point Republicans have been trying to make from the very beginning, to point out we ought to first focus on dealing with what is driving up health care costs. That will, if we are successful, have a positive impact on getting people insured because it will reduce the cost of insurance they have to buy or their employer is buying on their behalf.

That is what we should be focusing on rather than this rather elusive issue of coverage of the uninsured. To be sure, nobody is arguing we should not help cover the uninsured. That is not the argument we are making. The argument we are making is, it does not justify a $2.5 trillion expenditure and that, in any event, if you focus first on dealing with costs, you are going to reduce costs, which is a good thing in and of itself, and, thereby, also enhance coverage because the cost is less expensive.

Here is the penultimate paragraph in the piece. I will quote him and close. What Samuelson said is the President is:

..... telling people what they want to hear, not what they need to know. Whatever their sins, insurers are mainly intermediaries; they pass along the costs of the delivery system. In 2009, the largest 14 insurers had profits of roughly $9 billion; that approached 0.4 percent of total health spending of $2.472 trillion.

Four tenths of 1 percent.

He goes on to say:

This hardly explains high health costs. What people need to know is that Obama's plan evades health care's major problems and would worsen the budget outlook. It's a big new spending program when government hasn't paid for the spending programs it already has.

His point is, instead of trying to make insurance companies the villain, the President should be honest about what their true cost is.

Somebody pointed out--my colleague, Lamar Alexander--if you take all the profits of all the insurance companies, it pays for 2 days' worth of health care expenditures in the country. What about the other 363 days? Nobody is defending the insurance companies, but you cannot say they are responsible for the high costs of health care in this country, since they are primarily just passing those costs on.

The bottom line is, we need to be honest and explain to the American people what we are trying to accomplish or what we should be trying to accomplish is reducing health care costs. That will have the salutary effect of making access easier for people because they will be able to afford the insurance that now may be unaffordable for them. But the idea that the insurance companies are the reason we have the problem or that emergency rooms are used more because of the uninsured are two myths that are dispelled in this piece by Robert Samuelson.

I yield to my colleague from Oklahoma.


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