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Fox News Channel "On the Record" - Transcript


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MS. VAN SUSTEREN: All right, don't mess with Texas. Texas Governor Rick Perry is coming out swinging at the federal government, calling it oppressive, oppressive in its size and interference with the affairs of his state of Texas. Now, the governor strongly expressing his backing of a Texas state resolution which is supporting Texas state rights under the Tenth Amendment of the Constitution. Governor Rick Perry joins us by phone.

Governor Perry, nice to hear from you. So this resolution reaffirms state sovereignty. What does that mean? And why are you behind this?

GOV. PERRY: Well, the Tenth Amendment is pretty simple when you take a look at it. In its technical wording, it basically says that the powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution nor prohibited to the states to reserve to the states respectively to the people. That's all it says, really simple. What that means is that the federal government was created by the states to be an agent of the states. However, today the states are treated instead as agents of the federal government. And this constitutional effort here, this H.C.R. that we have in Texas, H.C.R. 50 that Representative Creighton is carrying, clearly says that Texas rights under the Tenth Amendment and it advises the federal government to cease all the programs that violate the scope of their power as defined by the Constitution. And it also makes that all compulsory federal legislation that requires states to comply under the threat of civil or criminal penalty or that require states to pass legislation or lose federal funding need to be prohibited or repealed. Bottom line, Greta, is we're sending a message to Washington. Let Texas run Texas. We're doing a pretty good job of it down here. Our economy is doing well. We're creating jobs. Seventy-plus percent of all the jobs created in 2008 in America were created in Texas.

MS. VAN SUSTEREN: Governor, I imagine the federal government and probably President Obama himself is saying, you know, oh, big deal, let Texas make all the statements and resolutions and everything. I mean, do you have any muscle at all? I mean, is there anything you can really do about any of your objections that your state is being stepped on by the feds?

GOV. PERRY: Greta, there's going to be about 54 tea parties all across Texas tomorrow. There is going to be tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of people showing up to send a message to Washington, D.C. I've got an idea that the congressional delegation from Texas, the congressional delegation from Georgia, whether you're a Democrat or a Republican, you're going to be paying attention tomorrow that there is something happening all across this country. And it is a powerful message. We want Washington now, reaching out and taking unheard-of action -- we're seeing these unnecessary mandates attached to the recent stimulus fund, for instance. We stood up in Texas and said, listen, we do not want unemployment insurance funds coming to Texas that have these strings attached. It's happening all across the country. Tomorrow is going to be a powerful message to Washington, D.C. I hope they're listening.

MS. VAN SUSTEREN: All right. We've only got 15 seconds, so I'm going to steal the 15 seconds and say every time I talk to anyone from Texas I'm reminded about what great service you did in Katrina. I never saw anything like it. Texas did a great job, and the nation owes its gratitude. Governor, thank you.

GOV. PERRY: You're welcome. Proud to be with you, Greta.


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