Rep. Brendan Boyle (D-PA) is Interviewed Regarding Trump Leading in the Polls Against President Biden

Date: Nov. 5, 2023

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I am so confident of the Eagles victory, I decided to spend my time here on CNN with you, Jim. But as far as the poll numbers, you know, I'll say the same thing. If a poll showed Biden up by 10 or down by 10, reality is this is going to be a very close election. Five of the last six presidential elections have been decided by just a few points or fewer. I fully expect the 2024 election will probably come down to just one or two points in about five states, including my own state, the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.

Right now, polls are a poor indicator. Let's not forget that at this exact point in their cycle, Ronald Reagan, Barack Obama, and Bill Clinton were all losing reelection one year out in the polls. They all went on to win re-election. So, the reality is we've seen this before. And in the end, 2024, it looks like we'll come down to a choice, a choice between President Biden's positive record and the absolute dysfunction and circus of Donald Trump.

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There's no question that Donald Trump represents an existential threat to American democracy. I would in no way compare previous Republican nominees like John McCain or Mitt Romney or Ronald Reagan to the sort of, frankly, dictatorial tendencies that Donald Trump has. So, there's no question that 2024 will be probably the most important election of our lifetime. I know that phrase has probably been used to describe every presidential election, but truly, as it was for 2020, it applies for 2024 as well.

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Oh, no. What I'm saying is this will be a very hard-fought close election. We will have to make sure we fully get our message out, that we define the stakes for the voters, that we show exactly what a second term of Donald Trump would present. And in the end of the day, I fully expect this will be a one, two-point race, and I think it will be decided by my own state of Pennsylvania.

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Yeah. You know, I remember being out there knocking on doors in Iowa and New Hampshire for then former Vice President Biden. And some of the same voices were saying that we had absolutely no shot. And then, sure enough, after Iowa and New Hampshire, they were absolutely convinced that Joe Biden was finished. It is amazing how many times in his career Joe Biden has been counted out only to come back and prove the critics wrong.

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You know, obviously, I would strongly disagree with those sentiments. We've also had some outrageous sentiments expressed by Republican members of the House who have flat out called for genocide in Gaza. This is a very emotional, powerful time around the world where we have seen a rise in both anti-Semitism and Islamophobia, unlike anything I've seen in my lifetime.

I think President Biden and this White House has been doing everything that it can to ensure that our allies in Israel are able to stand up to the Hamas terrorists, that we're able to get our hostages back, but at the same time that we ensure that as much humanitarian assistance as possible gets to those civilians in Gaza, especially the 45 percent of whom are children.

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You know, it's a situation like this in which being the president is not an easy job. The reality is President Biden has led out of principle, but I think that in the end, once it gets into 2024, and we're talking in terms of an election, that election will be a choice not a referendum.

You have Donald Trump out there who still wants a ban on all Muslims coming into the United States. There have been those voices in the far right that have talked about actually expelling everyone who is a Palestinian-American from the United States.

So, once we get into an actual choice between a president who is attempting in a very difficult situation in which emotions are high, a president who was attempting to lead responsibly versus the incredibly irresponsible rhetoric on the far right led by Donald Trump. I do think in the end of the day, our Democratic voters will come home when faced with that choice

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I would love if we could believe that Hamas would actually abide by a ceasefire. Let's not forget that some 18 years ago, Israel flat out left Gaza, actually uprooted their own settlements and left. And all they've gotten in thanks 18 years later are terrorist attack after terrorist attack from Hamas. I want all of this violence to end as soon as possible.

But the practical reality is, every time Israel actually pursues a ceasefire, all it does is enable the Hamas terrorist to regroup and relaunch further terrorist attacks.

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Thank you.

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