The Lead with Jake Tapper: Rep. Zoe Lofgren, (D-CA), Is Interviewed About 2020 W.H. Meeting

Interview

Date: July 7, 2023

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Well, I don't know, but obviously what happened after this Tumultuous meeting was the ex- president issued his now famous tweet come on January 6, it will be wild, that was summoning the mob. We heard from many of the rioters that they felt the president had asked them personally to come to Washington. And that was the final effort that the president was able to make to stop the election from being certified through mob violence.

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It is possible. I mean it goes to the ex-president's intent. Certainly he made additional efforts to corrupt the Department of Justice subsequent to that tweet, but in the end he wanted to stay in power. We've proved that in our committee investigation. And he tried a variety of ways to achieve that goal, even though he lost, and he knew he lost, and, you know, the mob violence was the final effort to stay in power.

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Not that I'm aware of, certainly not me. But we laid out everything we had. So, all the transcripts, all the evidence, everything we had is available to them and to the public. There's no need to call us because it's all there.

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Well, in the end our job was to tell the truth, which we did. We weren't able to interview everybody, for example, Bannon and Meadows and Roger Stone refused to testify. But our job was to tell the truth, and the American public has to make the determination. I can't -- you know, I'm going to vote just as one voter, but the committee doesn't decide who's president any more than the ex- president was allowed to decide that by himself.

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Well, I think you can't put a price on justice, and it is important that this be thoroughly explored by Mr. Smith. We can't say that the accountability is only for the rioters who broke in and assaulted the police. The accountability needs to go to the top. And the committee was able to show, I think, pretty directly and competently that the ex-president was at the center of this scheme to hold power contrary to the law. And it's up to the special counsel whether he can indict or not.

That's a decision we couldn't make, although we did, of course, make some criminal referrals.

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