MSNBC "The Ed Show" - Transcript: Trans-Pacific Partnership

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SCHULTZ: Let me turn out now Congresswomen Marcy Kaptur of Ohio, and her
take on all of this. President Obama says that Elizabeth Warren and
Sherrod Brown and your some -- you`re just wrong. You`re just wrong on
this. What`s your response to just being wrong on this?

REP. MARCY KAPTUR, (D) OHIO: Well, you know, I had a privilege of serving
an office since NAFTA passed and I have been dealing with Japan for three
decades. Their market has remained close from what I seen happen to the
people of my entire state and region is the outsourcing of their jobs.

Hundreds of thousands of many manufacturing jobs in Ohio alone, 5 million
nationwide just in manufacturing. These trade agreements have literally
since the 1970s caused this country a loss of over 47 million jobs.

SCHULTZ: So where does fast track stand in the House right now
Congresswoman. Where is fast track right now?

KAPTUR: The Ways and Means Committee is going to hold a hearing tomorrow.
The bill is teed up in both chambers, in the Senate and the House so it`s
good time for you to have this on television, and it`s important for the
American people who`ve lost their jobs because of trade, with their
companies outsourced, their wages cut and all these imports coming in to
say, hey wait a minute we need time...

SCHULTZ: Yeah.

KAPTUR: ... out for America for a change.

SCHULTZ: OK. So Paul Ryan this morning when he was on "Morning Joe", he`s
wrong when he says that this will create jobs, is he right or is he wrong?

KAPTUR: Well, he`s absolutely wrong. It might create a couple jobs in
transportation, taking machines out of this country and putting them Mexico
or taking our jobs and putting them in Vietnam. You know, many of our
workers have had to train the workers of other countries to operate the
machines that they used to work on. Unless you live through it you can`t
really see what`s happening.

There are some communities that our government places like Washington D.C.
or the capital cities of our country in the various states. They don`t
depend on people actually making things.

SCHULTZ: Yeah.

KAPTUR: And therefore they`re immune from what is happening across our
country. We haven`t had a balance trade account for three decades in this
country so...

SCHULTZ: Yeah.

KAPTUR: ... that means more imports coming in here than exports coming out
and that translates into lost jobs every single year.

SCHULTZ: All right, Congresswoman Marcy Kaptur, always good to visit.
Appreciate your time tonight...

KAPTUR: Thank you.

SCHULTZ: ... thank you.

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