Small Business Lending Fund Act of 2010--Resumed

Floor Speech

Date: July 19, 2010
Location: Washington, DC

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Mr. SESSIONS. Mr. President, I wish to speak on a very serious issue relating to the confirmation of Solicitor General Elena Kagan for the Supreme Court of the United States. As I was preparing for her hearings, I noted what struck me as a disturbing decision she had made as Solicitor General shortly after taking that position, in a case called Witt v. Department of the Air Force. In that case, a former member of an Air Force Reserve unit in Washington State sued the government to challenge the ``don't ask, don't tell'' law, which essentially says openly homosexual persons may not serve in the U.S. military. The case was dismissed by the district court, and the military was allowed to proceed with its policy. But when it was appealed to the Ninth Circuit, that very liberal court of appeals overturned the district court and said the case should go to trial and announced an unworkable legal test that the lower court must apply and that the government would have to meet for the ``don't ask, don't tell'' statute to survive constitutional challenge.

After that unprecedented ruling, the Solicitor General's Office, then manned by the Bush administration personnel, immediately authorized an appeal to the full Ninth Circuit, en banc, and the government asked the full court to take a look at it and overturn the three-judge panel. The full court of appeals declined to do so, over strong objections from several judges on the Ninth Circuit who thought their colleagues had clearly gotten the case wrong. In fact, the First Circuit in the Northeast had already reached a different conclusion in a very similar case, and had upheld the statute.

At that point, the government could have appealed the Ninth Circuit decision to the Supreme Court, as I think the Solicitor General's Office clearly was on track to do. First, they sought en banc review, and then they would seek interlocutory appeal to the Supreme Court. But as it happened, by
the time the case was ripe for appeal, the Obama administration had come into office and Ms. Kagan had become Solicitor General. She was now head of the office that makes this decision on whether to take cases to the courts of appeals or, if necessary, to the Supreme Court; the office that is charged with the great responsibility of defending before the Supreme Court the statutes passed by the United States Congress. Of course, don't ask, don't tell is a congressional statute, not a policy of the military. So it fell to her to decide whether to take the case to the Supreme Court. She refused.

I practiced law for 20 years--15 as part of the Department of Justice, as a U.S. attorney for 12 years--and I think I can make some commonsense evaluation of the judgments the lawyers made in this litigation. Ms. Kagan, at the time she made this decision, had only been Solicitor General--had only served in the Department of Justice--for 6 weeks or so.

As I analyzed what I think happened, I asked some serious questions about why this Solicitor General failed to follow through on what appeared to be the direction of her predecessor. And I was struck by the distinct possibility that Ms. Kagan did not fulfill this fundamental responsibility of her office, which is to defend the statutes of the United States regardless of her personal policy views. So at the time of her confirmation hearing, just a couple of weeks ago, I asked her about this case and the facts that led up to it. I asked her to explain the decision, and I deliberately intended to give her time to explain it. Well, she took time, using notes for about the only time I saw in the hearing, and talked uninterrupted for about 10 minutes to explain how it was that she made the decision.

At the end of it, I thanked her for her answer and noted that I was going to have to review this because what she had done did not make good sense to me. I have to make a judgment. I am a Senator. I have to know whether the person who is being considered to sit on the highest Court of the land with a lifetime appointment--could serve 30, maybe 40 years on the Court--whether they understand that officeholders have duties and responsibilities that they cannot just fail to discharge, that they must do?

So I have conducted an examination, and I must say I am very troubled by what I have found about this case. I think the record shows that Ms. Kagan did not, in fact, fulfill her responsibilities in a good way and in a faithful way as Solicitor General and that she, in effect, violated a specific promise she made to the Judiciary Committee when she testified under oath during the hearing on her nomination a year or so ago to be Solicitor General.

She had to be confirmed then and came before the committee.

Before I go further, I wish to provide some background. It is widely known by many that Ms. Kagan is personally opposed to don't ask, don't tell. She has been opposed to it for some time. While she was dean at Harvard, she blocked the military recruiters from the campus career services office because of her opposition to don't ask, don't tell. She called don't ask, don't tell ``a moral injustice of the first order.'' She spoke at a protest of students who protested while a military recruiter was in the next building, and she changed the Harvard policy from admitting recruiters to the career services office to denying them admittance, without legal authority, contrary to the law Congress passed and on which I worked, to force universities to treat our military men and women who come to recruit on their campus with the same dignity and respect as they would treat anyone else from some law firm who makes millions of dollars. At the recent hearing she openly admitted to me that her views remain the same about this statute.

When she came before the committee for the position of Solicitor General, she was specifically asked about this in written questions, in light of her strong opposition to this law. Congress passed three or four versions of the Solomon Amendment to finally require that colleges and universities treat our military on an equal basis, and some were forced to do so or lose Federal funding. She was specifically asked, in light of her strong opposition to this law, whether she would be able to defend it as the job of Solicitor General would require. This was not a mystery. We knew this matter was coming up through the courts of appeals and would be coming before the Solicitor General.

She was flatly asked: If you are going to take this job, as you have been opposed to this statute, will you defend it as you are lawfully required to do? Only the Solicitor General can represent the U.S. in the Supreme Court. If the Solicitor General does not defend an act of Congress, who will? There is no one else. So it was a good question.

She promised the committee under oath that she would, and she said that her ``role as Solicitor General would be to advance not my own views but the interests of the United States.'' Correctly stated.

She went on to say that she was fully convinced that she could ``represent all these interests with vigor, even when they conflict with my own opinions.'' She said her general approach to suits challenging a Federal law would be to make any ``reasonable arguments that could be made in its defense,'' and this would include ``challenges to the statute involving the don't ask, don't tell policy.''

A pretty specific promise. It was an important promise. I am sure had she not made that promise, even more people would not have voted for her confirmation.

She went on to say that she would ``apply the usual strong presumption of constitutionality to that law as reinforced by the doctrine of judicial deference to legislation involving military matters.''

As I mentioned earlier, it just so happened that immediately after she was confirmed it fell her lot to defend this very statute that she personally strongly opposed but that she had promised she would vigorously defend. She was given the opportunity to appeal to the Supreme Court from that terrible decision out of the Ninth Circuit, which refused to uphold don't ask, don't tell, and which ordered the military to go to trial in the middle of a war to justify the law under a newly-invented legal standard.

Faced with that choice, Ms. Kagan refused to appeal, decided to let the Ninth Circuit decision stand, and allowed this case to be sent back down to go through a trial. Clearly, to me, the military's interest was to have the issue decided as a matter of law--that this is a lawful policy and that they were empowered to carry it out in a lawful manner.

When I asked Ms. Kagan at her Supreme Court hearings recently why she blocked the Supreme Court review of the Witt case, she gave three reasons in her long answer. Some may have thought she gave a brilliant dissertation. She had notes, and she went through a long discussion.

First, she said she concluded, after conferring with her colleagues, that it would be better to wait to appeal to the Supreme Court until after the trial, because a trial would build a better factual record of the case. She said once the facts were better developed, the government might be in a better position before the Supreme Court.

Second, she said that allowing the case to go back to the district court would help the government in a future appeal because it would be able to show the Supreme Court just how invasive and ``strange'' were the demands of the Ninth Circuit that were being placed on the government in defense of the law.

I will say one thing: The Ninth Circuit demands were, indeed, strange and were utterly unworkable, as I will show.

Third, she said an appeal in the Witt case would have been ``interlocutory;'' that is, an appeal before the case had come to an end and before a final judgment had been rendered in the case. The Supreme Court prefers not to hear these kinds of appeals.

None of these explanations are credible. It is true that appellate courts, including the Supreme Court, prefer to hear appeals at the end of the case rather than in the middle, but that is a decision the Court can make for itself. It is not something the Solicitor General has to decide on the Court's behalf. And that consideration was clearly outweighed in this case.

I will note parenthetically that when the Third Circuit ruled on the Solomon Amendment, which required Harvard and other law schools to allow the military equal access to recruit on campus, they took that as an interlocutory appeal and reversed the Third Circuit. That is exactly what should have been done here. The government had asked for an interlocutory appeal to the Supreme Court from the Third Circuit ruling that affected Harvard, and the Supreme Court agreed. It was a legal question, ripe for decision, and they decided the case. That is what should have happened.

Here we already had a split among the courts of appeals on this question. The First Circuit had already ruled as a matter of law for the government. The Ninth Circuit ruling squarely conflicted with the First Circuit, and it was also at odds with decisions from four other circuits on similar principles. Here we also had an opinion from the Ninth Circuit that presented clean questions of law--an opinion that had dramatically altered the legal landscape in 40 percent of the United States, because the Ninth Circuit encompasses 40 percent of the United States, and that was proposing to subject the military to an invasive trial process, while fighting a war, to defend the application of a nationwide military policy to an individual person.

Ms. Kagan's second explanation--that letting the case go to trial would allow the government to show just how painful a trial would be--cannot be given serious consideration. The Ninth Circuit opinion was very clear about what the government would have to show in order for the don't ask, don't tell law to survive this lawsuit. In other words, one didn't have to go through all these steps at the lower court and show how dramatically disruptive it would be. The Court had set forth explicitly what would happen. It is easy to show the Supreme Court why this is not a workable approach.

The Ninth Circuit made it very clear in their opinion that the government was going to have to justify the application of don't ask, don't tell to this specific plaintiff--not justify the law in general but to justify its application to this specific plaintiff--to prove that this specific plaintiff was going to harm the military if she were allowed to remain in the Air Force. It was also clear that such a trial was going to be disruptive to the military and that it would harm the unit cohesion Congress had set out to protect when it passed the don't ask, don't tell law in 1994.

I am not alone in reaching this conclusion. Her predecessors in the Department of Justice and in the Solicitor General's Office, the office she took over, also knew the court orders did not make sense. That is why they immediately asked the full Ninth Circuit to reconsider en banc the three-judge panel's ruling when it first came down in 2008.

They said in their brief that the Ninth Circuit

decision ``creates an inter-circuit split.'' That means the First Circuit had held differently. The Ninth Circuit held a different way. We had a split of circuits which is something the Supreme Court considers when they decide to take a case.

They went on to say it created ``a conflict with Supreme Court precedent, and an unworkable rule that cannot be implemented without disrupting the military.''

The Ninth Circuit's decision, they went on to say, made the constitutionality of a Federal law setting military policy for the entire Nation ``depend on case-by-case surveys, taken by lawyers, of the troops in a particular plaintiff's unit.'' They went on to say that immediate review was ``needed now to prevent this unprecedented and disruptive process.'' That is exactly correct. The lawyers who made that argument were clearly correct.

Most importantly, Ms. Kagan's decision to send this case back for trial and not appeal doesn't make any sense because she knew a trial was going to be massively disruptive to the military. I have studied the record of the case on remand to the district court, and I have seen what has been going on since it was sent back to be tried on an individual plaintiff basis. The lawyers for the government are struggling to defend the law under these difficult circumstances. From the very first hearing before the district court, these lawyers, career lawyers, professionals in the Department of Justice, are asking the court not to allow discovery, not to allow the plaintiff to depose the soldiers and plow through all these issues in the military unit.

Here is what the career attorney for the Department of Justice said at the first hearing before the district judge after the case went back down for this trial:

If we commence with discovery into the specific facts of this case by looking at what unit members think, we are threatening--we are jeopardizing the unit morale and cohesion ..... that the Ninth Circuit said the government--the military--has an important government interest in.

So the military is in a bit of a catch-22. By proceeding to discovery, we may well have to sacrifice our important government interest.

Remember, Ms. Kagan told the Judiciary Committee--she told us just a few weeks ago--that ``building a factual record'' would be good for the government's case. Remember? I just went through that. That is what she said--it would be good. We would have a better prospect on appeal somehow. Here, the career lawyers trying to defend the military are saying that building a factual record is bad for the government because the discovery process will threaten the military's interest in unit cohesion.

As a matter of fact, I will say as an aside that I think it is quite clear that if the Ninth Circuit theory of law were to be upheld, the ``don't ask, don't tell'' policy would be put in the situation where it would be difficult, if not impossible, to enforce because everybody dismissed under that policy would then be able to have a big trial. It could go on, as this one has, for months, and they would be able to call all the unit members to ask their opinion about what they thought about this, that, and the other, even about their personal sexual activities, perhaps. This is not a practical solution. It is bad for the government. How Ms. Kagan could now say it would be good for the case, I do not know.

So clearly the career lawyer is right. The plaintiff in this case, who is represented by lawyers from the ACLU, has asked for and received access to the personnel records of the plaintiff's military unit. So now the ACLU has the personnel records of the entire unit, it appears. They have demanded depositions with other soldiers who served with the plaintiff before she was separated from the military. They have demanded the right to interview soldiers about their private lives, their personal views of their former colleague, and their private thoughts about sexuality.

The district court has wrongly, I believe--well, I will just say it this way: The district court has allowed it at every turn because the district court says this is the only way to answer the questions the Ninth Circuit ordered them to answer before a person could be dismissed under this provision of law.

But this is not just a case of bad--astonishingly bad--legal judgment. I do not think Ms. Kagan accidentally sent her client, the U.S. Air Force, into a litigator's lion's den. I do not think it was an accident. I believe she understood this was going to happen and, for some reason, she wanted it to happen.

In the very first hearing the district judge held after Ms. Kagan refused to appeal to the Supreme Court and the case was sent back for trial, the plaintiff's lawyers argued they needed to get all this discovery in the case, and they made a very interesting statement to the district judge. They said this:

[T]he government just doesn't want any discovery. I have heard that message from the government clearly--loud and clear. [We] were asked to meet with the Solicitor General of the United States in April, and we heard that message loud and clear that discovery is a big problem; but we never heard any specifics as to why, and it boils down to they don't like the Ninth Circuit's decision.

So apparently back in April 2009, Ms. Kagan acknowledged what I think is indisputable: that discovery of this kind, where soldiers are deposed and asked about their personal views and activities, would be disruptive to the military and bad for her client, the Air Force. That is just undisputable. She was the Solicitor General then and acknowledged that.

Her decision to block an appeal to the Supreme Court was finalized in May of 2009. So before she made that decision, it does appear Ms. Kagan met with the opposing counsel in the case--the ACLU lawyers--and told them that ``discovery is a big problem.'' In other words, she told these ACLU lawyers for the other side, who were trying to attack the military policy, that developing a factual record in this case would be bad for the government. But she told us at the committee that she thought it was going to be good for the government.

She knew in April of 2009 that a trial would be harmful to the interests of her client, but she made sure the case went back for a trial anyway. She knew that discovery would be harmful to the government's interests, but she told the Judiciary Committee, just 2 weeks ago, under oath, that she decided not to allow an appeal to the Supreme Court because she thought ``it would be better to go to the Supreme Court with a fuller record'' that would be developed at trial.

I do not know how to reconcile her testimony with the record in the case. I do not think it can be reconciled.

During this nomination process, I have expressed my concern about Ms. Kagan's record as a political lawyer--someone who has advanced a specific agenda as an adviser in the White House and someone who says she was ``channeling'' the Justice she clerked for on the Supreme Court when she encouraged him not to hear certain cases because she did not think a majority of the Court would rule the way she and her boss would like. But I do think this big decision she made as Solicitor General is, in many ways, more concrete proof--and from just a few months ago--of the reason for our concerns that this nominee will have difficulties, and maybe find it impossible, to set aside her political views and decide cases objectively and fairly.

Faced with the hard task and the solemn responsibility of defending the laws of the United States--after having promised the Judiciary Committee under oath that she would be able to uphold that responsibility, even as to this specific law she personally opposes--I am forced to conclude that Ms. Kagan did not live up to that promise and did not fulfill a solemn duty of the Solicitor General of the United States.

This is not a statute, in my view, that is likely to be overturned by the Supreme Court. In fact, we know the law's opponents, in another case, did not want to see their case be appealed to the Supreme Court. Why? They felt they would lose, in my opinion.

Let me talk about duty. Maybe that is a bit old-fashioned today. But Ms. Kagan should not have had to make a promise before the committee that she would defend this law. It is a duty of every Solicitor General to defend the laws of the United States, whether they like them or not, whether they think it is a good idea or not. Who cares what they think? They have a responsibility. They are confirmed to a position high in the Department of Justice--the position that empowers her to appear before the Supreme Court and state the position of the United States. Indeed, the Solicitor General's job has often been called the greatest lawyer job in the world. Why? Because the Solicitor General has the honor to stand before those Justices and say: I represent the United States of America. What greater honor can someone have than that, to represent this great Nation before the Nation's highest Court? Much is expected of them.

So I say she did not have to make a promise to defend this statute. It was her duty, whether she liked it or not. And it does appear--I do not see how we can draw any other conclusion--that she did not like this law and that her strategy in the case was to not get a definitive Supreme Court ruling on the constitutionality of the statute and to allow these proceedings to be dragged out in lower court and to maybe influence Congress as to whether it repeals this act. I do not know. Certainly, she despised this law. She opposed it. She wrote briefs at Harvard attacking the Solomon amendment that said that Harvard Law School had to give the military equal treatment on campus and that access could not be denied simply because she did not agree with don't ask, don't tell, which is what she was doing at Harvard.

The result of her decision showed she was willing to allow the ACLU to prowl through the our airmen and soldiers in units throughout the Ninth Circuit--covering over 40 percent of America--turning those units upside down, harming the discipline and order of those units and damaging to the military. I do not see how it can be considered otherwise.

I think it was an abdication of her duty. We are Senators here. We are elected. We have one vote. And I know our nominee was articulate and had good humor and many thought she did very well with her testimony. I was not so impressed. But I do believe you have to fulfill your duty and your responsibility, particularly after you have explicitly promised to do so with regard to this specific case, and defend the law even when it runs contrary to one's own personal views.

What if the person is now confirmed to the bench for 30, 35 years? If she were to serve as long as the judge she is replacing, I think she would serve 38 years on the Supreme Court. We have to know before they are launched forth on the Court that the nominee has the ability and the character and the integrity to defend the legal system in a proper and effective way.

This nomination is further complicated by the fact that our nominee has no experience in the real practice of law. Our nominee has never tried a case, never stood before a jury, to my knowledge, never cross-examined a witness in a trial.

She never had to deal with a judge who is not feeling good, maybe irritable one day, or dealing with lawyers on the other side who are clever and tough. That is something you learn. She has never been a judge. Well, they say, that is not necessary; some great judges haven't been judges. Of course, that is true, but she has never been a judge or a real lawyer. That bothers me. Then when I see the kinds of things I am seeing here, it makes me pause, frankly. I hope all of my colleagues will look at this and take it seriously.

There are other examples of positions taken by this nominee as Solicitor General and at Harvard that are very troubling. I think the evidence shows a lack of a clear understanding of the importance of the rule of law in our country. President Obama has said he wants judges with empathy. I don't know what he means by empathy. That is not a legal standard. It is something other than law. It is more akin to politics or bias than law. He has said he wants a nominee who will demonstrate that they, in the course of their duties, will have a broader vision for what America should be. Does that mean a judge gets to manipulate the meanings of words in statutes and in our Constitution to promote this vision that they have? Were they elected to promote any vision? I don't think so. I think a judge should be a neutral umpire who puts on that robe to evidence a commitment to impartiality and call the facts of the case as they see them, faithfully following the law and faithfully finding the facts of the case. That is what a judge is all about.

I am very concerned that our nominee, whose background has been more political. Her testimony to me was too much akin to White House spin than to a clear and intellectually honest explanation of what the law and facts are in complicated situations. I didn't feel good about it. Maybe others did, but I did not.

So those are concerns I have. I hope my colleagues will specifically look at the don't ask, don't tell matter. I think it raises questions about whether the nominee should be confirmed.

I yield the floor and note the absence of a quorum.

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