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MS. VAN SUSTERN: Governor Huckabee is not giving up his race for the White House. He is tough and he's determined. He joins us live in Irving, Texas.
Governor, welcome. Do you agree that is a pretty good description that you're determined and tough?
MR. HUCKABEE: Well, I think so, Greta. I mean, the fact is: I don't what the big hurry is. We have all these people acting like that we have to make this decision today. We've got to remember, we're six months away from the nominating convention. We're eight months from the election. We've only been in the voting process for about seven weeks and it's - a person has to have 1,191 confirmed pledged delegates to be the nominee. I'm not sure why everybody's in such a rush to get this settle today.
MS. VAN SUSTERN: All right Governor, I know you've got your eye on the Republican race, but I know that you're not just sitting there like a potted plant, not watching the Democratic race. What's your analysis? Give me, from your perspective, what's going on in the Democratic race?
MR. HUCKABEE: That Barack Obama's phenomena is an amazing to watch and he's got a full head of steam behind him. I think most of us - me included - thought that there was no way anyone would beat Hillary in the Democrat primary. I'm afraid that we were all wrong and I think Hillary's got a real tough climb ahead of her.
MS. VAN SUSTERN: Why do think everyone miscalled it? At least to that - some people think that he had a pass from the media. Some people think that's he just a new look at - he's a new candidate. What do you think?
MR. HUCKABEE: I think there were many factors. He had a great organization that lot of people underestimated, but he also was fresh face. And I do think the media sort of gave him a great big wet kiss the whole time and, you know, just allowed him to have a platform.
I mean, I remember it wasn't too many weeks ago - maybe it was the last big primary - and virtually every network stopped and gave him almost 45, 50 minutes for an uninterrupted speech. You know, give all of us that and we'll pick up some votes someway, surely.
MS. VAN SUSTERN: So, what's your advice the media four years from now? How can we get better at covering these races; covering, you know, both Republican and Democratic?
MR. HUCKABEE: Well, for one thing, if you're going to have an honest debate with the candidates, give the candidates at least some equitable distribution of time on those debates. Many of the debates I went into, I'd get six minutes and other candidates would get 23 minutes. Make sure that there's some sense of letting candidates have a platform so that voters can get to know them. That's the best way to really create the kind of election system so that it's not just about who's waved a big checkbook and had a bunch of money early on.
MS. VAN SUSTERN: So, I guess it's part of the message as well is stop listening to just the pundits and everyone that's on TV and actually sit down and study your candidate and see who really does have the experience and the program that you want?
MR. HUCKABEE: I think that's part of it, but the other thing is the media has a big influence. For example, when a lot of people kept saying that we had pulled out of Florida, we weren't pulling out of Florida. We were in Florida every single day. That really hurt us there.
There have been, also, reports for the last several weeks: well, it's mathematically impossible to win. Mike Huckabee can't win. You know, that finally begins to sort of ingrain. I started asking some of the media, if this is such a mathematical certainty, how come none of the networks have the same delegate count? How come not two networks have exactly the same delegates for John McCain and me? It's because it's not that certain and there's another issue - go ahead.
MS. VAN SUSTERN: I got to end this, but it's also a little bit nutty that it's so complicated that you need a PhD in mathematics from MIT to even begin to figure out any of this stuff.
MR. HUCKABEE: Well, and I think the one is certainly everybody's number doesn't have anyone who has clinched it. So, until the game is over - it would be as ridiculous as if we wait until November and about 6:00 in the evening on election night, having somebody say, we're not going to count the votes in of the states west of the Mississippi. We've decided, based on the trends we're seeing on the East Coast, election's already established, it's over and so were not going to even county any votes west of the Mississippi.
Would America accept that? Of course they wouldn't. So why is that we are calling the election before Texas, Ohio, Vermont, Rhode Island has all voted. It really does make it a challenge, but, you know, it is what it is and, hopefully, with each election cycle we learn something and maybe we do it differently the next time.
MS. VAN SUSTERN: Now let me add one other crazy factor: the way people can cross over to different parties and they pick, basically, the nominees for the other party. So it is pretty - we've got a lot of thinking to do about it next time around.
Governor, thank you and good luck, sir.
MR. HUCKABEE: Thank you, Greta.